LJ is long gone

LJ is a jerk. LJ is a distraction. LJ is a baby. LJ is a brat. all true. also: LJ is RIGHT!!!

i understand why the chefs made the move to release him. i believe they had no other choice really. i mean, after all, the last thing they want right now is a player at the end of his career on a team that is going nowhere who is willing to speak his mind.

let's be real. LJ wasn't fired because of his gay comments. i don't give a crap about that. PC is out of control. he got fired because he called it like he saw it. was he wrong with what he said about Haley playing golf in college? was he wrong when a few weeks ago, he made the comments about "ego"? no is the answer, he was dead right.

although he later spun the "ego" comment to difuse some heat, i know exactly what he meant. i know how frustrating it is for us fans to sit and watch haley call the same, up-the-middle play, time after time after time. if i'm sitting on my sofa and i know it's coming, then so does every guy on the other side of the ball. i believe the "ego" refers to haley's apparent idea that, ok it didn't work that last 20 straight plays, but they'll NEVER see it coming this time.... oops. LJ is an ass and a punk. and i don't blame him one bit for reacting the way he did. he's sick of it, just like all of the fans paying lots and lots of hard earned $$$ should be.

Maybe it's just me being out of control PC, but his getting his sorry ass arrested FOUR times in the past several years may have also been a factor.
In any case, he's unbelievably stupid - clearly borderline retarded - for ripping his coach on twitter after being given numerous "second chances". Whether or not you AGREE with his comments or not is irrelevant; it was beyond stupid and could lead to only one possible outcome - which we saw today.
The fact is, he's just too stupid to play in the NFL - I hope nobody picks him up, and he returns to a life of beating up women until he takes up a more permanent residence at Leavenworth. He is a festering washed-up a-hole who is destined for a life in prison...he might as well get started on it.

I don't know if I see a plan by Haley Pioli. I know that I don't know what it is and that it appears they do not want to share their plans, but maybe I'm wrong.

Are we going to be a defensive team a la' Herm or an offensive team a la Dick? Is the plan to "get winners" and let them go out there and win?

The plan is to get good players and score more than the other guys.

Haley and Pioli are not going to get it done. They do not have what it takes and now in this losing environment no one will care and 3 years will go by and something else will happen.

I need a new team.

"Haley and Pioli are not going to get it done"

We're only 8 games in and people are already making these claims. Really? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I think its a little premature to make such claims.

Pioli took over a team that was 2-25 over the past season and a half. How he could be expected to turn the Chiefs into a juggernaut in LESS THAN A YEAR is beyond ridiculous. This was a terrible, terrible team he inherited. Pioli comes in in mid Jan 2009, hires Haley about a month later and free agency starts about 3-weeks after that - he barely knew what he had on the roster at this point, and the draft wasn't far off.
If people want to rip him because he didn't throw a ton of $ at over priced FA's, go ahead, but he never does - because it usually doesn't work out.
It's going to take time; I'll start bitching a year from now if there's no serious improvement.If we finish the year with 2 or less wins, I think Haley is gone, and there are several guys who could step in and become the face of the franchise - Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren, Gruden, Billick - that would be interesting to say the least...

I am getting so sick of you losers addicted to losing. "He inherited a bad team", or "One year is not enough time to turn anything around". BS
You people's logic is akin to someone staying in an abusive relationship. "He really is a good guy, even though he punches me in the face". WRONG. Not only did they not turn anything around, they did not even improve it. They replaced 3/4 of Herm's players with their own choices and still made things worse. And, not only did they make things worse, but they brought that whole arrogant a**hole thing too. When the owner 'gets off' on pocketing as much cap money as possible, and his staff thinks they are entitled to win, and you look worse than the Lions, I would say that there has been plenty enough time to show promise or potential. They have not shown that, so quit your idiotic 'all we need is time' rants and shut up.

So you thought Pioli could come in and change "3/4 of Herm's players" and suddenly run the table from the start? Are you really that stupid? Is somebody helping you with the math problem on this page?
OR are you saying you would have preferred things stay exactly as they were - keep Peterson, keep Herm as HC and not make any player moves. They won 2-games last year bozo. Two. See if you can find a small child to show you how many fingers that is. It's not many. This team needed a total overhaul, and contrary to what you may think, that does NOT occur in 6 f'ing games.
Your abusive relationship example is beyond stupid. I suggest the next time the cops show up at your place for this type of call, you DON'T give them your usual line: 'but he's a really nice guy..."

i actually believe Pioli will be just fine. he has experience. more importantly football experience with championship bloodlines. i think Haley is a kook. from the day i heard of the hire, all i could think about was the sideline arguments with his marquee players at AZ. at that time i thought, really? this guy is head coach material??? i think we see he's clearly not. he likes to argue and he likes to intimidate but he clearly has not clue how to nurture and grow his players. he thinks he can motivate his players by demoting them and embarassing them. show me a championship team where this has been effective???

and i believe we were all led to believe he was some sort of offensive genius??? really? where's all those points tough guy??? you've got the players. i would rather see cassell throw 5 int's a game then see the chefs score 6 points. at least i'd know they were trying.

I would agree with that. But I can't think of any 1st-time/1st year head coaches who went to one of the worst teams in the league killed it in their first year. And he doesn't have much to work with. But to your point, I wonder if his style more than anything will be his undoing. I think there's a perception that if you're going to scream and threaten your players, it's actually OK - as long as EARN it first (Parcells, Coughlin et al) - and he hasn't. That said, if this team was 5-3, I don't think ANYONE would give a rats ass about him yelling at these guys.

I'll look at the bright side - if the team wins only 2 games this year, and Pioli/Hunt feel there's an irreparable personality problem here, there are some pretty damn good head coaches out there to consider - Cowher, Holmgren, Shanahan, Billick, Gruden... by the time Pioli got around to picking an HC there wasn’t much to choose from….maybe this was a temporary solution all along…

I'd like to think that Pioli has the balls to make a bold move like that if we're no better off by the end of the season. I'd hate to miss a chance to get a Blockbuster HC with proven success if it looks like Haley is still questionable or a bust. If he does look like a bust, hopefully pride doesn't get in the way of getting a replacement.

sorry double post

You know, its funny how you claim to use logic and compare the Chiefs to an abusive relationship. Honestly you lost all credibility with having a valid point with you started spouting that garbage.

I don't think giving them 1 WHOLE YEAR is asking much. You're just as delusional as you claim I am for thinking ANYONE could change things in 8 games. Sure they did bring in some people like you said, but you can't bring in EVERYONE YOU WANT IN ONE OFFSEASON! Oh not to mention Haley completely changed the offensive play book 2 weeks before the season started. Whether that was a good choice or bad, the facts are there that the team has been behind on getting up to speed on whatever the hell Haley wants them to do on offense.

Am I a cheerleader rooting for Haley? Not at all, I'm just reserving my judgement after he completes a full year of coaching. I HOPE he succeeds for KC's sake, I'm tired of rebuilding just like everyone else.

Glad to see some common sense here for once!

Agreed.